[tig] RE: Tig digest, Vol 1 #630 - 3 msgs

김윤 kimyoon
Mon Jul 28 05:51:58 BST 2003


Dear

We are using Lipsner Smith made CF2 film cleaning machine.
Currently we exchanged the motor board of our CF2 cleaning machine. Lipsner Smith told us that
our model is too old and there is no more same board manufactured from Lipsner smith and they sent us the trial one instead.
Firstly the board worked so well but now it stopped working controlling its speed.
Our engineer says that there need the motor board operation manual required.

If anyone knows how to solve the problem, please kindly let me know.
Thanks and regards,
Chris

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Today's Topics:

   1. "Light Struck" Leader (5302) (john.pytlak at kodak.com)
   2. Film Cleaners (solvents) and PTR (john.pytlak at kodak.com)
   3. RE: Film Cleaners (solvents) and PTR -Naptha (Craig Nichols)

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Message: 1
To: tig at tig.colorist.org
Cc: frank.ricotta at kodak.com
From: john.pytlak at kodak.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:21:45 -0400
Subject: [tig] "Light Struck" Leader (5302)

Rob Lingelbach asked:

Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:38:44 -0700
From: Rob Lingelbach <rob at colorist.org>
To: Telecine Internet Group <tig at colorist.org>
Subject: [tig] light-struck

I like to use as leader on rolls of negative "light-struck"
film, which is the term i used to use to order it.  It is
grayish-white acetate film that behaves nicely in use for
leader on negative.  Could someone enlighten me about how it
is made and from what base stock?

thanks in advance
Rob Lingelbach
colorist, tig coadmin, etc.

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"Light Struck" leader usually refers to unprocessed EASTMAN Fine Grain 
Release Positive Film 5302.  The emulsion is a cream color, and slowly 
darkens with exposure to intense light.  Many like it because it is an 
actual film product with carefully controlled finishing parameters.  But 
being a print film, it normally has print film perfs and is long pitch.

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/5302.shtml

Here is the ESTAR base version:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/so302.shtml

Kodak subsidiary FPC also carries a full line of leaders:

http://www.fpchollywood.com/film-leaders.html

Hope this helps.

John
(signed by:)
John P. Pytlak
Senior Technical Specialist
Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, New York 14650-1922  USA
Telephone: +1 585 477 5325
Cell: +1 585 781 4036
Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak at kodak.com
website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Message: 2
To: tig at tig.colorist.org
Cc: frank.ricotta at kodak.com, donna.timmons at kodak.com, frank.pettrone at kodak.com
From: john.pytlak at kodak.com
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:33:01 -0400
Subject: [tig] Film Cleaners (solvents) and PTR

On 7/24/03 12:30 PM, "Craig Leffel" <craig at opt1mus.com> wrote on the TIG
List:

> I have a question about alcohol based film cleaners. We have a Lipsner 
Smith
> alcohol based film cleaner ( I forget which model ). I would like to 
move it
> into the same room as the "clean room" the Spirit is in.
>-----------------------------<snip>----------------------------<

That doesn't sound like a very wise idea to me, Craig.  Most film cleaners
release a certain amount of chemicals in the air, and I can't believe the
residue will do delicate circuit boards any good (particularly in a
sensitive beast like the Spirit).

Ditto with human lungs.  I say keep the cleaner in a broom closet down the
hall -- preferably one well-ventilated and away from people.  In fact, for
all I know, it may be against OSHA regulations to have a film cleaner in a
place so close to humans.

--Marc Wielage/Cinesite Digital Imaging
  Hollywood, USA

John Pytlak adds:

The Kodak website has information about solvent film cleaning, and about 
Perchloroethylene,  one of the most commonly used solvents for ultrasonic 
cleaning:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/hse/solvent.jhtml?id=0.2.16.16.4&lc=en

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/corp/environment/kes/pubs/pdfs/J701ENG.pdf

As noted, most solvents are either quite flammable or potentially 
hazardous to health if handled or disposed of improperly.

Don't forget that Kodak PTRs are very effective on particulate dirt, and 
don't require solvents:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/hse/epaHonor.jhtml?id=0.2.16.66.2&lc=en

(I was the leader of the Kodak team that developed PTR film cleaning 
technology, that just won the 2003 EPA Stratospheric Ozone Protection 
Award)

John
(signed by:)
John P. Pytlak
Senior Technical Specialist
Customer Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, New York 14650-1922  USA
Telephone: +1 585 477 5325
Cell: +1 585 781 4036
Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak at kodak.com
website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion


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Message: 3
From: Craig Nichols <cnichols at ascentmedia.com>
To: "'john.pytlak at kodak.com'" <john.pytlak at kodak.com>, 
	tig at tig.colorist.org
Subject: RE: [tig] Film Cleaners (solvents) and PTR -Naptha
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:03:06 -0700



John Pytlak adds:

The Kodak website has information about solvent film cleaning, <snip>

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/hse/solvent.jhtml?id=0.2.16.16.4&lc=en



I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Naptha type cleaning
fluids listed by Kodak (tested by Lipsner) on the link above?  They are
listed as excellent on cleaning and low cost, but they combustible.  I would
not encourage anyone to use cleaning materials that have a combustion
potential next to, or in, an expensive telecine bay. I was wondering what
cleaning machines would use the Naptha based cleaners, and would the cost to
build a suitable fire resistant cleaning area, and to provide insurance, be
more than continuing to purchase HFE 8200? We have had very good luck with
the HFE 8200 cleaning fluid, but it is not inexpensive.  It is nice not to
have to make a hazardous material shipping manifests like we had to do with
Perchloroethylene, and I don't feel obsessed to hold my breath when in the
cleaning area like I used to. ;-)

insert standard gas mask and disclaimer here....

Craig Nichols
Ascent Media Management Services 



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