[Tig] Re: Tig Digest, Vol 3, Issue 26

robert giglio robg
Mon Feb 28 14:18:26 GMT 2005


Jeff Kreines,

What is the status of kinetta's filmscanner/telecine ?

Rob Giglio
Colorist
Modern Video Productions-Philly
On Saturday, February 26, 2005, at 07:01 PM, 
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>    1. A bright and beautiful week... (hugh Waters)
>    2. Re: A bright and beautiful week... (Dick Hobbs)
>    3. Re: A bright and beautiful week... (Rob Lingelbach)
>    4. Re: A bright and beautiful week... (Rob Lingelbach)
>    5. Subject: Weird anamorphic squeeze on Fox Movie Channel - The
>       Longest Day  (Jeff Kreines)
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> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:13:18 -0000
> From: "hugh Waters" <hugh at hjwaters.co.uk>
> Subject: [Tig] A bright and beautiful week...
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> Its been a great week for lovely images.
>
> Tuesday. Went to the Barco sponsored seminar at BAFTA on Tuesday and 
> found
> it most illuminating (sorry... couldn't help that one!). The pictures 
> were
> stunning, in my very humble opinion. Lots of telecine people and, 
> naturally,
> cinema people there and a great sense of excitement in the air.
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> Friday. Saw the first 2k pictures in the new DI suite I'm involved with
> (Northlight scanner, Baselight 8 & Barco DP100). Went home with a broad
> grin.
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> Saturday. Read this story on the BBC website (on my phone... what a 
> geek!)
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4297865.stm and it looks like 
> I'll
> soon(ish) be heading off to the cinema for some more visual treats.
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> Anybody on the TIG involved in the AADC project who could expand on 
> the Beeb
> article?
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> Regards
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> Hugh
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> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:04:11 +0000
> From: Dick Hobbs <dick at hobbsonline.tv>
> Subject: Re: [Tig] A bright and beautiful week...
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> I was at the same Barco presentation, at Bafta. For my money far and 
> away
> the best pictures on display were some clips from a movie called 
> Slipstream.
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> It was obviously shot with a high speed 35mm camera but does anyone 
> know how
> it was scanned? Anybody work on this one?
>
> Dick
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> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:34:50 -0800
> From: Rob Lingelbach <rob at compugraf.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tig] A bright and beautiful week...
> To: hugh Waters <hugh at hjwaters.co.uk>
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> On 2005-02-26 at 15:13, hugh Waters (hugh at hjwaters.co.uk) wrote:
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>> Friday. Saw the first 2k pictures in the new DI suite I'm involved 
>> with
>> (Northlight scanner, Baselight 8 & Barco DP100). Went home with a 
>> broad
>> grin.
>
> Hugh, could you enlighten us (sorry) more about this suite, and how
> it's going with it?
>
> Rob
> Senior Colorist
> Compugraf, Istanbul, Turkey
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> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:01:52 -0800
> From: Rob Lingelbach <rob at compugraf.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tig] A bright and beautiful week...
> To: hugh Waters <hugh at hjwaters.co.uk>
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> incindentally, in the story at
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4297865.stm   on the AADC ("The
> World's First Digital Cinema Network") the following is stated:
>
>>  Fiona Deans, associate director of AADC, said the compression was
>>  visually lossless so no picture degradation will occur.
>
> would anyone care to comment on this?
>
> Rob Lingelbach
> Senior Colorist
> Compugraf, Instanbul, Turkey
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 16:24:59 -0600
> From: Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
> Subject: [Tig] Subject: Weird anamorphic squeeze on Fox Movie Channel
> 	- The	Longest Day
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> Happened to watch "The Longest Day" on the Fox Movie Channel (kind of a
> really lame imitation of Turner Classic Movies) in the US last night.
> OK, not a very good film, but what bizarre credits!  Tommy Sands and
> Richard Burton?  Music by Paul Anka, Mitch Miller, and Maurice Jarre?
> And what happened in the cinematography credits?  The Oscars database
> says this:
>
> "CINEMATOGRAPHY (Black-and-White)
>
> The Longest Day -- Jean Bourgoin, Walter Wottitz, (Henri Persin)
> [NOTE: Originally, the three names of Jean Bourgoin, Henri Persin and
> Walter Wottitz (as listed on the Official Screen Credits form) were
> announced as nominees for this film in this category. The credits from
> the film listed four Directors of Photography (in the following order),
> Mr. Persin, Mr. Wottitz, Pierre Levent and Mr. Bourgoin. The program
> for the Awards ceremony and even the official letter from Price
> Waterhouse with the results of the final voting for the awards listed
> the three names as winners in this category. At some point, the name of
> Henri Persin was dropped from the nomination, as his name has been
> 'whited-out' from the official wording for the nomination certificates,
> and the nominations and winners lists the Academy publishes do not
> include his name. The Academy's records and files give no reason for
> this exclusion.]"
>
> But on to my complaint:
>
> It was nearly unwatchable for other reasons.  They had stretched out
> the image (which was letterboxed, with subtitles below the image) so
> that the left and right edges were cropped off, and all objects were
> "squashed" -- too wide.  Even the subtitles were cropped off, by
> several characters, at times.
>
> Do they actually look at what they're broadcasting?  It's obvious that
> something is very very wrong.
>
> I won't start on the terrible digital cable compression artifacts...
> frankly, there should be a class-action lawsuit about those!
>
> Jeff "channelling my inner curmudgeon" Kreines
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