[Tig] MNR11 thanks

Eric Bergez eric.bergez
Thu Mar 17 19:33:17 GMT 2005

I couldn't possible sit here and say nothing.... :-)

----------------<Rob wrote>---------------
I very much prefer evident small quantities of grain to any introduced
motion artifacts from the overuse of noise/grain reducers>
--------------End of Rob's note-----------

I agree.  However,...

Notwithstanding the artifacts generated by inexpensive broadcast
pre-processors and the introduction of noise reduction in consumer
HDTV's, manufacturers have made significant advances in noise and grain
management algorithms.  The introduction of Motion Estimation and Motion
Compensation has dramatically augmented the real-time performance of
Grain Management tools.  For the first time in our history, we can
process grain (and noise) in HD/444 (real-time) with a high level of
confidence, without breaking the bank.  Of course, there are always
limitations, but the performance of today's Grain Management systems can
not be compared to yesterday's mathematics.  I think it will only get

On a more serious note - what is with these new consumer TV's
incorporating Noise Reduction?  My God it's horrible!  I had to force my
neighbor to turn it off.

Happy Saint Patrick's Day

Eric Bergez
Digital Vision (US) Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: tig-bounces at tig.colorist.org [mailto:tig-bounces at tig.colorist.org]
On Behalf Of Rob Lingelbach
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:18 AM
To: Telecine Internet Group
Subject: Re: [Tig] MNR11 thanks

Thanks to Craig Gordon for supporting the TIG.

On 2005-03-17 at 08:52, Rob Lingelbach (rob at compugraf.com) wrote:

speaking of noise reduction, over the years I've come to the conclusion
that with modern telecines, that are relatively free of noise compared
to those we worked with in years past, that I am having to use much
less NR and that it be more targeted toward alleviating grain
artifacts, but that this grain reduction is greatly a matter of taste
and bears discussion with the client in session.  As one who doesn't
necessarily disdain the appearance of some grain, I very much prefer
evident small quantities of grain to any introduced motion artifacts
from the overuse of noise/grain reducers, especially when we consider
how the various broadcast compression methods trample on clean motion.

Senior colorist, Compugraf
Istanbul, Turkey

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