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Hello Mike Seymour.
#1 Are you predicting the future,  well good for you!
#2 As you know in photography those" Kind"  of cameras
has been around for quite sometime now, for example
the Fuji/S3 camera  with 2-sensors at each-pixel-site,
 the Sony F82/8  has the RGBE/chip for larger
color-gamut. 
Ok, high dynamic range has some advantage for
under/over exposure, but do we really want more than 6
stops of range with poor transition of tone ? Or do
you want 4 stops to create an image with the proper
transition of tone ? 
Too much Dynamic range always lacks contrast and the
colors are muddy like Clark's pictures. Also that
enormous HDR brightness range makes transition poorly.

The question is detail vs graduation?
Lost of digital  camera manufacturers specify the
dynamic range without  including the noise.  Why not
since we don't tolerate noise with film?  How useful
are those stops past the sixth if we have them coded
with very few levels? 
All those digital cameras have different amps for each
channel, and one will always burn out first, or go
dark first due to different natural color balance,
it's hard to find true blacks and true whites anywhere
in nature unless we shoot a target at the perfect
color temperature, witch mean we get estimated pixels.
If we have to save shadows in Digital capture  we have
less information than Film and "or" the shadows detail
will be very noisy because of tonal re-mapping. If we
have to save highlights we have to  'recreate' the
blown out channels by copying them from the channel
that is still showing information with a
'white-recovery-tool' and the result is muddy again.  
That is why I prefer Film over Digital capture.
http://www.bobinevideo.com/ Jais

--- mike seymour <mikes at visualeffects.net> wrote:


#1 > Peter ! Peter ! you knew I would bite. :-) B>
fairly long standing film vs video debate. 
> 1. Do you honestly think film has something that
> sooner or later can  
> not be emulated by a digital device?
> 2. Do you honestly think
> - much higher shooting ratios (due to lack of load
> times - longer  
> loads - lower cost on set)
> - virtually no stock costs,
> - no processing costs
> - no scanning costs
> - immediate full on set playback
> wont sooner or later be the tipping point ?
 
#2 > Point 4: Moore's law - soon people are going to
make
> cameras that  
> capture HDR, it will come because it can. Dynamic
> range will match  
> and then pass 35mm.
> 
>> Mike :-)
> 
> PS
> Let the flaming begin ! :-)
> 

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