[Tig] Is there anybody out there

[mike seymour]

Certainly talking to Dale at Photon about the Genesis shot of the  
miniatures on Superman Returns - he joked "I could see it in high res  
right on set.. I was about to say "let's do another for safety - and  
I stopped myself - because I could see that we had it already !"

Actually I love film and I work with it all the time, of course.  
Actually we are recreating that Genesis pipeline with the Australian  
Cinematographers Society and my training company... fxphd.com.
We will be shooting miniatures on the Milo rig - with Genesis - which  
will then be used as part of our online daVinci training course,  
starting in a couple of weeks. So I guess after that I will be in a  
better position to comment. But to be fair - we are primarily  
focusing on grading 35mm and 16mm film and only a part of the 12 week  
course will look at Digital footage grading.

Warren Eagles will be doing most of the online daVinci training.

Re: HDR cameras and the need for them. I had always assumed that the  
consumer would be able to dial up or down an exposure rather than  
just look at an HDR as one image... having said that - there are some  
excellent programs at mixing down an HDR to an 8 bit file that has  
both detail in the whites and darks.

Re: 35mm lens remark - all I meant was that no longer do we need to  
use special 2.4x HD lens to match 35mm - and as such this opens up HD  
or Genesis style cameras to greater ease of use and production  
management.

One final point... I hope I made myself clear that my comments were  
made without trying to be dogmatic - just answering Peter's initial  
email - and exchanging ideas... . I know have known Peter for many  
years since URSA Gold days, - and I have always enjoyed good natured  
discussions with him - and the odd pint!

mike

www.fxphd.com



On 04/08/2006, at 4:02 PM, Geoff Boyle wrote:

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> I just finished shooting a film digitally, my first full feature  
> after 20+ years of shooting commercials on film, and have these  
> comments for Mike:-
>
> 1) we saved around £400K by not shooting film, that's as far as the  
> off-line stage only, I saw exactly the look I wanted as I had  
> created a LUT before shooting, I did this myself with Speedgrade  
> and then refined it with a colourist and Baselight generating a  
> Trulight LUT. This enabled me to push the look harder than I would  
> have done with film as I was seeing exactly what I was getting.
>
> 2) MV looked like HD because it was HD, that's the way Michael Mann  
> prefers to shoot, I don't know why.
>
> 3) I don't care, I'll use 35mm optics, 16mm optics or HD optics,  
> it's a part of my job to understand and use whatever, if I can only  
> cope with 35mm lenses then I'm not very good at my job.
>
> 4) Agreed, although I think you'll find that the way people grade  
> doesn't even make full use of the range available now!!
>
> 5) yeah right.
>
> 6) There was also the real buzz of being able to look at the images  
> immediately, how often do you see groups of people looking at  
> stills on a phone? all the time.
>
> I agree that film is on it's way out, sad but true.
>
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>
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