[Tig] color

[Christopher Noellert]

Every time we talk about color/ft it seems like someone gets hurt ;-)

Chris

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On Apr 26, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Steve Hullfish wrote:

> Thanks to Sherwin Berger (RTI) for support in 2007.  ====
>
>
>
> Wow. That is a VERY unfair characterization of what happened.
>
> Apple offered Bob Sliga a job and he took it. How is that "running?"
> Also, he asked - arguably - the finest, most "senior" member of
> Chicago's color correction community to step in for him at Columbia
> and he did. Pete Jannotta, who many in Chicago respect and admire, is
> now the new color correction teacher at Columbia. Bob helped to
> arrange that transition and the students were not left "hanging." I
> did not receive information about this transaction from Bob, but from
> Pete.
>
> I can certainly understand that FinalTouch was not right for your
> purposes. There have certainly been changes in their software under
> Apple even though Apple has only owned the product for three months.
>
> By my account, the changes are:
> XML import and export has been fixed. A simple press of the "Send To"
> button gets tracks (up to 100) back and forth seamlessly.
> They finally added an undo button, though it's only 1 level back.
> They deliver 20 preset looks in the Color Effects room. This is a
> small addition that probably wouldn't be used by most experienced
> colorists, but if you're trying to figure out how the effects "tree"
> works, then the preset looks can be deconstructed as a kind of
> educational tool
> They finally have documentation. That's a biggie. I understand it's
> over 300 pages now.
> Each individual secondary (of 8) can now be copied individually (plus
> primaries of course) to selected clips,
> The addition of Curves. Many experienced colorists "pooh pooh" this
> tool, but I find it very powerful, and I noticed it as an added
> feature on the Resolve among others.
> Interesting 3D vectorscope. I haven't played with it much, but you
> can view hue, chroma and luminance in this scope. I understand that
> it is similar to a scope in Flame.
> They've moved the scopes off the main screen UI so if you have
> hardware scopes, you don't have to display them at all.
> They've added the ability to check the specific numerical values of a
> pixel.
>
> Things that definitely still need to be fixed:
> Ability to monitor audio
> improved realtime performance
> inclusion of transitions
> ability to change only luminance channel
> simplify the UI (make it less Unix-like)
> revise the HSL controls so that they center on the control point. Now
> it's hard to select cyan because it's at one end of the spectrum.
> there are certainly others but I am not really in a position to know
> what everyone would like fixed about the software
>
> I doubt that Bob had any incorrect information about FinalTouch. He
> may have had a "spin" on the information, as any demo guy would, but
> you may have had a "spin" on it as well, or, since there was a
> complete lack of documentation with the product and the product was
> evolving rapidly from point release to point release, it may have
> been your information that was incorrect. I remember the thread
> vaguely, so I couldn't fault either of you with having the facts
> wrong from memory.
>
> Steve Hullfish
> producer/color correction author
> Chicago
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sean McKee wrote:
>>
>> I had posted my thoughts on Color when it was Final Touch back in
>> Sept 2005, after demoing it for a while. We ended up buying a
>> Resolve. Although it got heated for a moment the Silicon Color
>> owner not liking the fact that I didn't give a glowing review,
>> there was some good technical points mentioned. Not much has
>> changed since, and this thread can be looked up in the archives.
>>
>> I do remember hearing that the colorist/demo artist from Chicago
>> that was challenging me here with incorrect information about Final
>> Touch ended up going to work for Apple when they bought FInal
>> Touch, and he was also a teacher at Columbia College and quit his
>> job mid-semester to run to Apple and leave the students hanging.
>>
>> Sean McKee
>> Screen Time Images
>
>
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