[Tig] hard day's night

Mitch Jacobson mitchelljacobson at gmail.com
Tue Aug 19 16:11:56 BST 2008


What about that great L-cut at the top of the movie... leading into the
first song where the boys are on the train playing cards ("I Should Have
Known Better") and music starts under the scene like it's going to be part
of the score then, after a sneaky cutaway, the boys are performing the
song.
The scene also had a few bloopers (per imdb):

   - *Audio/visual unsynchronized:* Just before the group performs the song
   "I Should Have Known Better", John is sitting in the livestock carriage,
   playing with a deck of cards. The sound of shuffling can be heard a moment
   before he begins to shuffle them.

   - *Crew or equipment visible:* In the train carriage, just before "I
   Should Have Known Better", a mic can be seen in the corner when John says
   "cor, it's the girls"


FUNNY....Richard Lester was named the "Father of Music Video" once where he
replied : "if I am the father of music video then, I want a paternity test"
!!!
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Mitch Jacobson
Category-5 TV/NYC


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>   1. Dark Knight was not a DI grade (warren eagles)
>   2. hard day's night (Rob Lingelbach)
>   3. Re: hard day's night (Jeff Kreines)
>   4. Re: hard day's night (Bob Kertesz)
>   5. Re: hard day's night (TSassoon at aol.com)
>   6. Re: MKIII Turbo not loading film in normal mode, loop OK (woz)
>   7. Re: hard day's night (Rob Lingelbach)
>   8. Re: Dark Knight was not a DI grade (Jeff Olm)
>   9. Re: hard day's night Julie Christie (Joe Owens)
>  10. Re: hard day's night (Marc Wielage)
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> From: warren eagles <weagles at bigpond.net.au>
> To: tig at tig.colorist.org
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:18:17 +1000
> Subject: [Tig] Dark Knight was not a DI grade
> Anybody interested in the work done by Double Negative on the Dark Knight?
> or "Stereo" grading on "Journey to the Center"
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> www.fxguide.com and click the podcast link for some great interviews.
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> From: Rob Lingelbach <roblingelbach at gmail.com>
> To: James Uhl <juhlio at optonline.net>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:53:04 +0300
> Subject: [Tig] hard day's night
> I downloaded A Hard Day's Night with italian subtitles, to bring back to
> brasil with me next month.  Italian is close enough to Portuguese to be
> understandable for my daughters and wife.  You know, I had forgotten how
> well this film is done.  (being an aficionado of good films, and being in
> the business) I think it's an altogether great film to revisit every decade
> or so.  Victor Spinetti, as the TV Director, is amazing.
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> One of my favorite early Beatles' tracks, "Don't Bother Me" (Harrison) is
> part of the "club" scene about 20 minutes into the film, though I don't
> think they were really dancing to that tune (track being added later).
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> next song in the club sequence is "All My Lovin'.."  and it's nice to see
> Patti Boyd (George's first wife, and Clapton's flame) in a gorgeous pose.
> I heard through the air here in Kiev, when Paul played a huge open-air
> concert here about a month ago, All My Lovin' entering the windows of my
> flat.
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> this film is a work of art.
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> at 32:50, in "If I fell in Love with You", in the studio, notice that
> George knocks over his small tube amp, non-scripted, an obvious mistake !
> and he starts to crack up, only to recover very quickly before the cutaway.
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> at 48:09, it's clear that George is playing a Ramirez 1A classical guitar,
> one that I owned and revered, before having to sell it.   this during "And I
> love Her."   of course nobody can say who's playing the woodblock in
> percussion, because Ringo is shown playing only bongos.
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> brilliant cinematography at 48:29.
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> the way Ringo etc. join in on the dance number at 51:15 is priceless.
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> The alacrity at 52:57 and after, was never equaled in the Beatles' career
> or in Richard Letster's.
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> Lennon, at 32:00 or so, looks a lot like Michael Caine in his best moments.
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> at 58:11, we see Ringo as related in the history of the film per Ringo
> himself, in a very hung-over state, wandering.  I never realized, as a kid,
> that Ringo was severely out-of-it (his own declaration) during this
> sequence.   the throwing of the dart in the sandwich.
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> 1:14:30 in the performance, we see the Beatles doing a superlative
> perfomance lip-syncing  and from an obverse angle to the audience, a "If I
> Fell in Love."
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> 1:15:36 we see the turret TV lens cameras on the fab 4.
> 1:17:10 George doing a shuffle dance to his guitar solo
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> 1:17:27 John';s vocal, lip-synced, one of the best ever.
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> 1:18.30  She Loves You    ...  it's a crowd-burner, see the audience girls.
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> final chord of She Loves You:  7/9   jazz.
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> and there you have it, a little bit of commentary on this film, which I
> still feel is one of the best homages ever to a rock band, and has special
> meaning for me.
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> Rob
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
> To: Rob Lingelbach <roblingelbach at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:11:36 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night
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> It's a lovely film, so full of energy and beautifully shot by Gil Taylor.
>  Anyone know what stock it was shot on?  Ilford?  Kodak?  Agfa?  DuPont?
>  Ansco?  Ferrania?
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> I think Julie Christie makes her first film appearance dancing in a club,
> though it may be someone else.
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> Worth seeing the Maysles Brothers "What's Happening -- The Beatles in the
> US" which can now be seen again -- a film of their first US tour,
> influential on Richard Lester.  Speaking of Lester, catch "It's Trad, Dad"
> (also known as Ring-A-Ding Rhythm) on TCM -- predecessor to Hard Day's Night
> -- a jukebox movie with some surreal moments in it (catch the proto-Bonzo
> art-school band) and amazing early music videos 20 years too early.
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> From: Bob Kertesz <bob at bluescreen.com>
> To: <tig at tig.colorist.org>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:16:14 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night
> >I downloaded A Hard Day's Night with italian subtitles, to bring back
> >to brasil with me next month.  Italian is close enough to Portuguese
> >to be understandable for my daughters and wife.  You know, I had
> >forgotten how well this film is done.  (being an aficionado of good
> >films, and being in the business) I think it's an altogether great
> >film to revisit every decade or so.  Victor Spinetti, as the TV
> >Director, is amazing.
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> One of my favorite movies ever.
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> I remember being reluctantly dragged to see it by my older cousin in the
> theater on release, and being completely overwhelmed by the visuals and
> music.
> I stayed and watched it again the very first time I saw it, and have
> refreshed
> the experience every few years since, the most recent being just a few
> weeks
> ago. Still stands up beautifully. Just a wonderful film from every respect.
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> --Bob
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> Bob Kertesz
> BlueScreen LLC
> Hollywood, California
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: TSassoon at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night
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> In a message dated 8/18/08 8:16:32 AM, jeffkreines at mindspring.com writes:
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> > It's a lovely film, so full of energy and beautifully shot by Gil Taylor.
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> The first film that I remember seeing, in Bristol, UK 1964. I was 7yo, and
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> From: woz <warrenl at gmail.com>
> To: "Benjamín Fernández Maribona" <benjamin at digitalsprockets.net>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:01:19 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Tig] MKIII Turbo not loading film in normal mode, loop OK
> Hi
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> check the A/B wind switch, are all the interlocks ok?  Is the Load/Normal
> switch doing what it should, is there reel motor drive in any mode at all -
> go into normal with no film loaded, not in loop mode, fingers out!!!  Do
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> spools  motor? Have you reseated the capstan boards and/or ic's on them. Is
> there normal play - ff - rew function in loop mode? Is there any control of
> the capstan by moving the tension arms in normal? Is the plug with the
> capstan signal on it making good contact? (I can't remember offhand if it
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> From: Rob Lingelbach <roblingelbach at gmail.com>
> To: Jeff Kreines <jeffkreines at mindspring.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:14:03 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night
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> On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote:
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>  It's a lovely film, so full of energy and beautifully shot by Gil Taylor.
>>  Anyone know what stock it was shot on?  Ilford?  Kodak?  Agfa?  DuPont?
>>  Ansco?  Ferrania?
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>> I think Julie Christie makes her first film appearance dancing in a club,
>> though it may be someone else.
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> how about that, I'll have to look more closely.  and I've already looked at
> this film 10 times, the last few frame-by-frame.
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> From: "Jeff Olm" <jeff.olm at gmail.com>
> To: "warren eagles" <weagles at bigpond.net.au>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:25:59 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Tig] Dark Knight was not a DI grade
> Warren,
> Thanks.
> I think the fxguide.com podcasts are some of the best ways to pass
> time at a computer to get the latest FX, DI and CG trends right from
> the artists and colorists.
> Without a writers or products spin.
> My interview was with Mike Seymour over Skype while in Syndey I was
> home  in LA after a day work and just kind of a friendly chat with a
> old friend.
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> Their sites are really some of the best to keep up on the latest RED
> work flow info also.
> Disclaimer- I'm a Scratch and Lustre  fxphd.com professor and a Post
> Grad of Nuke, Toxic, and RED stereo workflow classes.
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> > Anybody interested in the work done by Double Negative on the Dark
> Knight?
> > or "Stereo" grading on "Journey to the Center"
> >
> > Check out
> > www.fxguide.com and click the podcast link for some great interviews.
>
> best,
> Jeff Olm
> LA, CA
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joe Owens <jpo at prestodigital.ca>
> To: "tig at tig.colorist.org TIG" <tig at tig.colorist.org>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:15:36 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night Julie Christie
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>>> I think Julie Christie makes her first film appearance dancing in a club,
>>> though it may be someone else.
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> That would be a new piece of trivia if substantiated... she is utterly
> uncredited or listed for AHD'sN anywhere.  What I did dig up is that her
> commonly attributed film debut is listed as "Billy Liar" 1963 as "Liz", and
> I think there was a BAFTA award involved.  AHD'sN = 1964.  Although there is
> a link between the two films, her appearance in the Beatles' flick would be
> a little more significant, and would likely be mentioned more often.
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> Joe Owens
> Presto!Digital Colourgrade
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marc Wielage <mfw at musictrax.com>
> To: Rob Lingelbach <roblingelbach at gmail.com>, "tig at tig.colorist.org." <
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> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:55:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Tig] hard day's night
> On 8/18/08 7:53 AM, "Rob Lingelbach" <roblingelbach at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > and there you have it, a little bit of commentary on this film, which
> > I still feel is one of the best homages ever to a rock band, and has
> > special meaning for me.
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> Yeah, great film.  I worked on the MAKING OF HARD DAY'S NIGHT documentary
> with segment producer Ron Furmanek some years back, and I actually had some
> of the original camera negative up on the Rank for some of those sequences.
> Can't remember what kind of B&W neg stock it was, but it held up very well.
> Ron found all kinds of really rare material for that doc, all kinds of
> newsreel stuff, vintage interviews, outtakes, etc.  I think there's still
> another hour of film sitting in the vaults that nobody has seen yet.
>
> A lot of hardcore fans have knocked the DVD reissue for the quasi-5.1
> surround remix, because there are so many differences between it and the
> original mono.
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> Note that Richard Lester (a former TV director) actually operated the video
> switcher -- excuse me, "vision mixer" -- during the TV concert at the end,
> so that's his own hands on the fader knobs.  I thought the shots in the
> control room were fantastic, showing perfect shots of the Fab Four on the
> monitors, while you could see them performing live through the glass on the
> stage below.
>
> Also note that in the famous outdoor sequence where they frolic in the
> grass
> field, Harrison was sick that day, so Lester reportedly filled in.  You
> can't really tell, since most of the sequence was done in extreme long
> shots, along with moving helicopter shots.
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> I know an HD master of this title exists (done by Charlotte Grau when she
> was at Post Group, circa 2004), but I gots no idea when and if this film
> will ever come out on Blu-Ray.  I believe Tom Nottingham at Complete Post
> did the 2001 transfer released on DVD by Miramax, and it looked really
> great.  I'm honestly not sure who owns the rights to the picture right now,
> but I remember there were some messy lawsuits between Miramax and Apple
> Corps Ltd. about it, mostly over underlying copyrights.
>
> BTW, I noted where Paul McCartney was just asked about a reissue of LET IT
> BE on HD, and he commented that the film raised so many hard feelings back
> in 1970, he and the others have decided to shelve it "for the immediate
> future."  No doubt that will make the old 1982 Laserdiscs even more rare
> and
> valuable.
>
> --Marc Wielage/Senior Colorist
> Technicolor Creative Services
> Hollywood, USA
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> NOTE:  The comments above are strictly mine, and may not necessarily
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