[Tig] Fwd: Canon 4K monitor

Robert Frye bcfrye at earthlink.net
Fri Jan 24 17:48:47 GMT 2014


That's an interesting comment about light and color bleed.  Does this refer to viewing it way off axis?
Because when viewed in a "normal" position, that's something that the monitor never has been criticized for.
Due to the BLU technology, if you do view it way off axis, then you'll see some ghosting, which may be what 
you're describing.

Sorry that you don't feel comfortable on it, honestly there have been very many major motion pictures graded
on the PRM, by some of the worlds most critical colorists, so apparently it is a comfortable experience for some.

Having said all this, please note I'm not shilling for the monitor or Dolby, as I was a part of a large round of 
lay offs due to company restructuring, so while the PRM was my baby, I'm no longer pitching for the team :)

Bob


On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Juan Ignacio Cabrera wrote:

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> That sounds great coming from the Dolby PRM manager... I look forward to
> check the Canon out. As much as I really wanted to love the PRM-4200, I
> don-t entirely feel comfortable grading with it. The light and color bleed
> is way too much for a monitor of such high range.
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> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Rob Lingelbach <rob at colorist.org> wrote:
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>> Bob Frye would like me to pass this on the TIG in reply to Carl Skaff’s
>> comments/queries on the Canon
>> 4k monitor.
>> 
>> —Rob   TIG admin
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Robert Frye <bcfrye at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Tig] Canon 4K monitor
>>> Date: January 23, 2014 at 9:11:41 PM CST
>>> To: Rob Lingelbach <rob at colorist.org>
>>> 
>>> Carl -
>>> 
>>> It's always exciting to work with a new reference display, especially
>> one with the pedigree that the Canon has.  As the product manager for
>> Dolby's PRM-4200, I have had many opportunities to do some serious in depth
>> analysis of many displays, true reference versions and pretenders to the
>> throne, so to speak.
>>> 
>>> While I haven't had an in-depth session with the Canon, from what I've
>> seen during it's previews at IBC and NAB, I can say that Canon is doing all
>> the right things.  Of the several 4K displays entering the market now, it
>> strikes me as being the one most likely to become the "it" 4K monitor in
>> this size.  I was impressed with it's gray scale rendition. The way it
>> comes up out of black without  crushing the lowest code words reminds me of
>> the Dolby monitor.  Very accurate and smooth, does a great job of rendering
>> the details in the shadows.  That might be one area I'd suggest you look
>> into with the content you're working on there.   As good as the E-series
>> OLEDs are, when I measured their gray scale tracking, they did crush the
>> first few code words coming up out of black, which may or may not impact
>> your shadow details, of course this is content dependent.  I've thought the
>> Canon had good colorimetry as well, both the primaries and secondaries seem
>> well represented to my eyes.
>>> 
>>> I'm looking forward to getting some seat time with the Canon myself…
>> will be very interested to hear your thoughts as you continue evaluating /
>> working with it.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>> 
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